00:32:44 Nancy Olson: Barstow Community College is here!~ 00:32:48 Michelle Morton: Good Morning from Cabrillo College 00:32:50 Carolyn Rosales: Hey Tina and Alex! ๐Ÿ™‚ 00:32:51 Catherine McKee: Greetings from Mt. San Antonio College! :) 00:33:00 Leslie Reeves: Hello from American River College! 00:33:04 Marini Smith: Good morning from West Los Angeles College! 00:33:05 Brittnee Quintanar: Good morning from Norco College! 00:33:07 Laura Headley: Hello from foggy Monterey Peninsula College! 00:33:14 Tina Stavropoulos: Hi Alex & Carolyn! :) 00:33:16 Heidi Emmerling: Hello from Cosumnes River College 00:33:30 Robin Akawi: Hello from American River College :-) 00:33:30 Matthew Moore: Good Morning, from Ventura College. 00:33:32 Susie Kopecky: Hello from Hancock College! :) 00:33:53 Jessica Beck: Good morning from Portland Community College! 00:34:01 Jaimie Powell: Hi from Portland Community College. 00:34:18 Ingrid Kelly: Hello from College of Marin! 00:34:31 Cynthia Hamlett: Love it! 00:34:42 Sandy Somo: Goooooo Fabi, Dave, and Bri!!!! 00:34:43 Sybil Priebe: Hello from North Dakota. 00:34:46 Nadiyah Taylor: Hi from Las Positas College 00:34:50 John Coldiron: Greetings from American River College - Go Beavers! 00:34:57 Liz Norell: Hello from Chattanooga State Community College! :) 00:36:43 Adrien Lowery: Hello from Southern California! 00:36:58 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): What do grades measure? https://www.menti.com/fpdzi2w9hn 00:37:33 Brittany Zemlick: How well students can play the game of school. 00:37:38 Mariah Tilman: students ability to show there knowledge in the way the instructor understands 00:37:44 Aisha Conner-Gaten: Completion of assignments 00:37:59 Rhonda Welch: Jumping through hoops 00:38:00 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): What do grades measure? https://www.menti.com/fpdzi2w9hn 00:38:17 Alyson Day: obedience to a set of norms 00:38:22 Dr D Preciado: The instructor's ability to teach effectively. ;) 00:38:31 jennifer carmean: how organized a student is 00:38:51 Jwan Amin: Tests students knowledge. 00:39:18 Adrien Lowery: How students measure up to a set of standards they didn't have a voice in creating 00:39:23 Cristina Polesel Livoti: student learning 00:39:32 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: Love that, Adrien! 00:39:41 John Coldiron: Engagement 00:39:44 Carolyn Rosales: Hi Janet! 00:39:53 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: Hey, Carolyn!!! 00:40:14 Mary Anne Funk: wow, that's a lot of people here. that is wonderful news 00:40:18 Andrea Fuentes: Is mastery grading considered a yes? 00:40:20 Bruce Conkle: Depends on what is being measured and how 00:41:48 Helen Graves - CVC/@ONE (she/her): Youโ€™ll need to toggle to Everyone if you want everyone to see your message. 00:41:59 Armeda Reitzel: I love the idea of โ€œreshapingโ€ power! 00:42:12 Martha Kehl: grades show student opportunity and access to academic skills 00:42:14 Denise Maduli-Williams: I love this visual of the progression. 00:42:42 Sofia Cook: I had connection problems. Were any links already shared? 00:43:23 Armeda Reitzel: I appreciated the sharing of the list of โ€œpioneers.โ€ 00:43:33 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): Susan D. Blumโ€™s Ungrading Book: https://wvupressonline.com/ungrading 00:43:52 Armeda Reitzel: Thanks for sharing this source, Michelle. 00:44:10 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): Youโ€™re welcome, Armeda. 00:44:34 Roxann Schroeder: I have been reading the book (about 1/3 done) -- it is really interesting and helpful! 00:44:35 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: I love the phrase โ€œlearning oriented versus grade oriented.โ€ What a great phrase to use in a syllabus. 00:45:29 Mary Anne Funk: I agree, Janet. 00:45:46 Sybil Priebe: There was a Twitter book club on the book, so look up David Buck if you get the chance; heโ€™s got resources from that club. 00:45:58 Denise Maduli-Williams: Love that you met up! <3 00:46:05 Bradford Johnston: She sounds cool! 00:46:05 Lauren Hull: Thanks Sybil! 00:46:24 Nadiyah Taylor: Super appreciate your honesty Dave! 00:47:07 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): What a beautiful story! 00:47:19 Sandy Somo: ^ Yes!!! โค๏ธ 00:47:22 Lauren Hull: ๐Ÿ˜ 00:47:38 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): The power of community. โค๏ธ 00:48:45 Cerise Myers: It looks like Dr. Brown's Zoom window might be blocking the slides? 00:49:54 Mary Anne Funk: as instructors we've all had that on our screens 00:51:15 Armeda Reitzel: Great choice of a verb โ€” โ€œforcingโ€ the rubric. Iโ€™ve felt that emotion myself sometimes when Iโ€™ve used a rubric. 00:51:19 Dayna Quick: who is the author? 00:51:33 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): Asao Inoue 00:51:49 Dayna Quick: thanks! 00:52:48 Que Dang: was the link to the slides shared? 00:53:07 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: It was shared in the Q&A 00:53:34 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): Here are Bri, Dave, and Fabiโ€™s slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1P0JFtIU2-XWBzxLV0m8qomyQwssNRoq0nAyRd5CoVcI/edit?usp=sharing 00:55:16 Sandy Somo: I will pass that sweet about-out to Beth, Bri! I remember seeing you at the SEAS Summit at GCC!!! 00:55:59 Armeda Reitzel: I love the idea of giving students the opportunity to do revisions!!! 00:56:03 Susie Kopecky: love the option to revise!! I offer that to students and it makes so happy when they see that as an opportunity for growth, rather than the first grade as a point of concern 00:56:05 Aisha Conner-Gaten: Link to site: https://sites.google.com/view/blacklitsp22/grading 00:56:49 Sandy Somo: Thank you for sharing, Aisha! 00:56:53 Julio Delgado: Thank you for sharing! 00:57:30 Armeda Reitzel: I wonder if students might benefit from seeing a sample of our own revising as we work on our own papers and projects. Revision is something we all do and should acknowledge and promote! 00:57:31 Aisha Conner-Gaten: ๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿพ Hi Sandy! 00:58:06 Armeda Reitzel: Learning is a โ€œwork-in-progress.โ€ 00:58:07 Aisha Conner-Gaten: @Armeda love that idea! Modeling is so important in humanizing work and empowering students as scholars 00:58:14 Denise Maduli-Williams: Thank you Dr. Brown. Seeing your actual grading specifics is super helpful. 00:58:24 Armeda Reitzel: Thanks for your comment, Aisha. 00:58:26 Aisha Conner-Gaten: Also getting students to produce products they can be proud to share 00:58:38 Arthur Davis: Bri - What are the thresholds for completion of an assignment? To what degree do students need to respond and incorporate your feedback in order to complete an assignment? 00:58:43 Heather Leslie: Was your dissertation graded? 00:58:54 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): Bri, Dave, and Fabiโ€™s slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1P0JFtIU2-XWBzxLV0m8qomyQwssNRoq0nAyRd5CoVcI/edit?usp=sharing 00:59:01 Chris Nordquist: Thank you, Bri! 00:59:17 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): If you have questions for our presenter, please place them in the Q&A area. Thanks! 00:59:25 John Holmes: Very crafty Bri! 00:59:40 Atheneus Ocampo: ๐Ÿ”ฅ 01:00:37 Aisha Conner-Gaten: For folks with space to read the dissertation: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rmhrHTCCqlrsQEPJmbZ6O8oisQYMUvQ7/view 01:01:35 Laura Knight: I'm nerding out. 01:01:51 Tanya Littrell: I'm nerding out too Laura!! 01:01:54 Mary Anne Funk: I appreciate this so much. I started teaching in 2020. I have struggled with assigning number grades to assignments. The numbers seem so arbitrary to me. 01:02:16 Robin Akawi: I teach research methods and stats so I'm nerding out too. :-) 01:03:05 Andrew Walzer: What does "nerding out" mean? 01:03:37 Robin Akawi: It means we are loving seeing the data :-) 01:03:40 Andrea Fuentes: ! ๐Ÿค“ 01:04:36 Sandy Somo: Should out to you and the rest of the GCCD for categorizing Middle Eastern (aka Southwest Asian & North African) students in their own category! ๐Ÿ”ฅ Iโ€™m so proud of my alma mater and all of the wonderful people there! 01:04:44 Sandy Somo: *Shout-out 01:05:37 Laura Knight: From what I remember working in GCCCD they have one of the largest Middle Eastern student population in the state...or at least they did 16 years ago ;) 01:05:37 Andrea Fuentes: Love the feed back aspect of this... 01:07:29 Jennifer Perez: I wonder if any of these students are nursing/med students? Students going into med seek grades, my experience:) 01:08:22 Jeanne Costello: My high achieving students seemed grateful to have their intense performance anxiety alleviated! 01:08:31 Jami Moe: I have the same thought as Jennifer Perez. This is a large paradigm shift for those instructing in the medical careers. 01:08:48 Helen Graves - CVC/@ONE (she/her): @Jennifer Different disciplines do place greater/lesser value on traditional grades. All part of an academic culture that is wedded to grades. 01:09:18 Liz Stevenson: We have a faculty member who is ungrading in Math. It can be done! 01:09:40 Matthew Davis: And everyone still gets a grade at the end of the course! 01:09:42 Mamta Agarwal: *JP I believe "ungrading " still assigns the letter grades based on the completion of the assignments. 01:09:52 Sandy Somo: @Laura: they sure do! That said, our state has the largest number of SWANA students, yet not every district is aware of how many they have as not every college disaggregates student data outside of the Census categories that the US usesโ€”so, Iโ€™m always impressed when I see folks disaggregating in ways that better reflect studentsโ€™ identities and unique experiences! 01:11:03 Laura Knight: @sandy, very cool! 01:11:20 Andrea Fuentes: Great idea to have the check ins 01:11:25 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): Bri, Dave, and Fabiโ€™s slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1P0JFtIU2-XWBzxLV0m8qomyQwssNRoq0nAyRd5CoVcI/edit?usp=sharing 01:11:26 Nancy Olson: We need to acknowledge one of the goals of providing free education was to have a successful and competent workforce. What is the goal of this model of education? 01:12:26 Alina Yang: Can we all send a request to Canvas to add the option "R" for REVISE and not just X or check mark? When some students see X they can get defensive and discouraged when they have submitted work but they just really need to revise. 01:12:32 Nadiyah Taylor: Thatโ€™s super helpful to imagine what it can look like 01:12:57 Nancy Olson: I am not against this method and can see its benefits for everyone. Just wondering if it works for career education. 01:13:09 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: Excellent suggestion, Alina! 01:13:44 Eva Figueroa: So awesome! 01:13:50 Kristin Wilson: I wish college was free Nancy Olson! But I get your meaning; the public supports education. 01:13:51 Liz Stevenson: Alina, Canvas is not really updating much at the moment. I suggest perhaps an outside-the-LMS component for letting students know. The Canvas grading is abysmal. 01:14:53 Jeanne Costello: very inspiring! 01:14:54 Robin Akawi: @Alina Yang... I have students submit in the final assignment link and I just don't grade it until it's due but rather give feedback so that all their feedback and revisions are in one spot. 01:15:27 Brianna Brown: can we get a link to the article Bri mentioned? 01:15:32 Tanya Littrell: Our program is a Career Technical Education program. I implemented a similar grading system in Advanced Exercise Physiology and it actually worked really well. Students focus on the skills that they need to be professionals in their chosen field, no due dates, and students performed much better than the high-stress ABCDF method. 01:15:38 Liz Stevenson: Thank you Dr. Brown! 01:15:39 Denise Maduli-Williams: Dr. Bri Brown - Thank you for your incredible contribution to the research and for sharing the details of your dissertation. ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 01:15:47 Tina Stavropoulos: ๐Ÿ‘ 01:16:03 Matthew Moore: ๐Ÿ‘ 01:16:12 Audrey Blumeneau: Thank Dr. Brown! So inspiring! 01:16:43 Sandy Somo: Many, many thanks, Dr. Brown!!! Your work is important and inspiring. 01:16:53 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): Use this link to view the results on your own screen: https://www.mentimeter.com/s/6da80c7aa5509659d2dbd0304dbde5ea/944b91fd1059 01:17:10 John Cristobal: compliance is a good descriptor 01:18:03 Nancy Olson: just an fyi. in Canvas the check x needs a point value to calculate a grade.. you can even make everything have a one point value. I had to help an instructor with that issue this week. 01:19:52 Mariah Tilman: This is the first time someone has explained contract grading in a way that I feel it can be applied to science - thank! 01:20:44 Maria White: Dr. Maria D. White Nursing ECC good information 01:21:01 Jeanne Costello: @Nancy Olson I just create one assignment in each category in which I put a percentage that represents the percentage of assignments completed. Every other assignment is a check or x. 01:21:39 Jeannette Mulhern: @Alina I use a โ€œMasteryโ€ Grading Rubric. It works for me for some assignments. I either select โ€œNot Yet At Masteryโ€ and provide detailed feedback or โ€œMasteryโ€ and highlight the strength in their work. Since Canvas has points I decide a point value (6/10 for โ€œNot Yet At Masteryโ€) or (10/10 for โ€œMasteryโ€) 01:21:48 Nancy Olson: then only the work with the percentage counts and the rest is busy work. Which is fine but we should be honest about that. 01:21:56 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): Here is an article that Bri and Fabi recently authored: Discovering the Spark of Teaching & Learning through Equitable Grading https://onlinenetworkofeducators.org/2022/02/16/discovering-the-spark-through-equitable-grading/ 01:22:10 Mary Anne Funk: that's an impressive doodle 01:22:24 Julieth Diaz Benitez: Awesome 01:22:25 Nancy Olson: And for goodness sake don't make the weights in the assignment area 0 and the assignments zero. That doesn't work at all. 01:22:32 Susie Kopecky: That's amazing! 01:22:32 Sandy Somo: I love this Doodle, Fabi! 01:22:50 Jeanne Costello: @Nancy I think I did not explain myself well. The "assignment" with a percentage is not an assignment. It is just how I capture the labor the students have been doing. 01:23:27 Nancy Olson: Ah. That is different. 01:24:15 Nancy Olson: I just don't want anyone to think the Canvas gradebook works if all the assignments are 0 and the categories are 0. You can do other ways to do grades, btut you can't use the Canvas gradebook to do it. 01:24:40 Alina Yang: Setting up Canvas for contract grading has been tricky. Trial and error. Would love to hear how some of you are navigating this. Don't want to use points, letters, or percentage because students get fixated on these types of measurements, but I am open to ideas! 01:25:03 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: I love the โ€œrisk takingโ€ 01:25:06 Andrea Fuentes: We need to start a petition to Instructure to have a better contract grading system!! We are not the only ones trying to do this 01:25:31 Nancy Olson: yes, that is what I was hoping to hear as well. I want to help my faculty but I need ideas on how to assign grades. Maybe creating a final projet/report as the presenter is saying now. 01:25:31 Rachael Cresci: I would love that idea. I've incorporated more self refleciton 01:25:43 Audrey Blumeneau: Your doodles are amazing!!! Love these visuals! 01:25:44 Barry McNaughton: Love it! 01:25:44 Aisha Conner-Gaten: Yes please! I am running into the 0 category and would love to see how people are working around that. Specifically with courses that are shared in a dept. I need to be able to have folks replicate the process easily 01:26:05 Julianne Johnson: Very interested to hear how Canvas gradebook integrates into this conversation. Practical tools 01:26:13 Eva Figueroa: What's the app she uses for these doodles? 01:26:29 Richard Kamei: Thanks, Fabi. Your doodle helped me to clearly conceptualize what you are discussing. 01:26:32 Maria White: This is all very interesting however not able to apply to nursing. 01:26:33 Wendy Rummerfield: Notability 01:26:59 Chris Nordquist: Why do you call it โ€œliquid syllabus?โ€ 01:27:08 Mary Anne Funk: liquid syllabus is a new term for me 01:27:18 Sofia Cook: Whatโ€™s the link please? 01:27:18 Aisha Conner-Gaten: Assuming due to its fluidity, ability to move shape and change as needed 01:27:38 Kristin Wilson: I want this video! 01:27:44 Mary Anne Funk: Fabiola, this is fantastic. 01:27:45 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): You can learn more about a Liquid Syllabus here. https://brocansky.com/humanizing/liquidsyllabus 01:27:54 Nancy Olson: I wanted to know how this works with something like say cosmetology, where even if we implement this at the end they take a state level test and they have to pass it. So does this work for CTE where qualifications are state level? I don't see how. But I want top. 01:28:08 Roxann Schroeder: I use the term "Welcome Syllabus" for my students - that is easier for students to understand what the Liquid syllabus does for them 01:28:08 Tanya Littrell: Love this video! 01:28:09 Mary Anne Funk: I am feeling inspired and excited. I've been wanting to incorporate this style of assessment to my classes. 01:28:17 Dayna Quick: awesome video!!!! 01:28:29 Jennifer Amaya: Can't apply it to music industry, either, there are no re-dos in our real world, we have industry exams, as well, etc. 01:29:02 Tina Stavropoulos: I like the idea of calling it welcome syllabus because even faculty have been confused when I said liquid syllabus. :) 01:29:03 tracy stuntz: Jennifer - so instead, focus the re-dos on the formative assessments. 01:29:12 Maria White: Nursing has no redo's- can you imagine lets redo in nursing :(( 01:29:13 Jeanne Costello: @Jennifer isn't rehearsal about practice and revision? 01:29:27 Matthew Davis: You can re-take the LSAT, the bar, etc. 01:29:31 Liz Stevenson: I would encourage people to look into ungrading more if they think it doesn't apply to their discipline. These are just two examples. Lots of other ways to do ungrading exist. 01:29:33 Aisha Conner-Gaten: GCC Ethnic Studies course: https://sites.google.com/view/gccethnicstudies110-6weeks/ungrading-in-ethnic-studies/student-self-evaluation 01:29:34 Andrea Fuentes: My students were always harder on themselves with self evaluations than I was!! Absolutely 01:29:38 tracy stuntz: also your students arenโ€™t in the industry when theyโ€™re in your courses. 01:29:43 tracy stuntz: itโ€™s practice -thatโ€™s what college is for 01:29:59 Julieth Diaz Benitez: @Maria but to get to a point of no mistakes, targeted practice and re dos are necessary 01:30:03 John Cristobal: We are in education, we are supporting our students learn and prepare 01:30:07 Lauren Hull: Does anyone have experienced with flipped models and ungrading? 01:30:27 Nancy Olson: But if we know that the goal of the student is to be a welder say and there is a state level test they have to take to become one, aren't we being unfair if we don't prepare them for that task? 01:30:46 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): By giving re-dos, more students achieve mastery. 01:30:48 John Cristobal: focusing on the state exam etc only further stresses students to take away from our opportunity to support their growth and learning 01:31:11 Andrea Fuentes: You can prepare them for a test, but just taking traditional tests isnโ€™t that great a way to learn. You can have revision, redemption, practice activities along the way as they are learning to weld!!! 01:31:36 John Cristobal: our job is to prepare them, not to be another "one shot to be successful" situation 01:31:37 Tara Montague: Do you find a pattern of certain student populations undervaluing themselves and their work in their self assessment? I had to move away from ungrading for now because I noticed, after using it for 3 terms, that some students are much better at advocating for themselves and claiming the A than others. Hoping to return at some point. 01:31:56 Eva Figueroa: I love that! Trust is important on both sides. 01:32:09 Suzanne Wakim: At the end of the ungraded class - students will have learned more because they had more practice. It's about fostering learning. The more they practice now, the more they will have moved the info to long-term memory. 01:32:09 Nancy Olson: Much of Career Tech is physical and there are plenty of redos, etc. Still think we have to acknowledge nnd paepare them for the test if there is a test. 01:32:12 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): We invite everyone to put questions for Bri, Dave, and Fabi in the Q&A area. 01:32:27 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: I think we can help students in the testing arena by making it transparent and giving them suggestions about how to best test. So, for example, I teach English. I included Timed Writes because students will have to do many of them. I spend time helping them understand how to strategize. 01:32:55 John Cristobal: How is learning and redo-ing to better understand and grapple with the content not a way for them to prepare for the exam? 01:33:55 John Cristobal: "replicating the testing situation they will face" is not an argument for continuing in the same process that has kept these students in the margins 01:34:03 Bradford Johnston: I studied at UC Santa in the '90s, at which time the school used narrative evaluations instead of grades. The feedback was great, contributed much to my growth, and cultivated an atmosphere of striving to learn for its own sake. 01:34:17 Annika Nelson: getting โ€œgoodโ€ grades the traditional way does not always prove mastery. re-dos provides the opportunity for students to dive deeper into what they know/donโ€™t know and thus be more prepared and knowledgeable about the topics they need to test for later 01:34:31 Jeanne Costello: I love how you are honoring your students' metacognition as evidence of their learning! I am trying to encourage faculty on my campus to take this seriously as part of learning outcome assessment 01:34:42 Eva Figueroa: Wonderful quotes! 01:34:45 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): We invite you to go to the Q&A area and vote for any questions youโ€™d like answered. 01:34:55 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: I agree, Jeanne! I also love this focus on risk-taking! 01:35:27 Audrey Blumeneau: @Bradford, me too! In fact, it was why I transferred to UCSC because grades were destroying my love of learning! 01:36:29 Brenda Wilborn: @Bradford Johnston and Audrey Blumeneau - do you know why UC Santa Cruz changed to traditional grades? 01:36:52 Nadiyah Taylor: I really like the idea of organizing by essential questions. 01:36:53 Sandy Somo: Go, Dave!!! 01:37:01 Tanya Littrell: THANK YOU! I love your course pages Fabiola an Dr. Brown. 01:37:09 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: My high school daughter who is a straight-A student (mostly) and is trying to get into the university had an 88% in her chem class before the final. She earned a 99% on the final. She raised her grade to an 89.7%. The teacher gave her a B!!!!! I asked her if I could go in and โ€œBeverly Goldbergโ€ the situation, but she said no. It was disheartening. 01:37:10 Bradford Johnston: HI Audrey, that's awesome! Me too...I hated high school and the whole points thing. I also was a transfer student (Cabrillo, Grossmont, & SD City). 01:37:30 Melissa Utsler: Apologies. I just joined. If possible, will someone please share if a specific Twitter handle, hashtag, or other Twitter connection was provided? Thank you. 01:37:48 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: The twitter handles are in the presentation. 01:37:55 Melissa Utsler: Thank you :) 01:38:16 Bradford Johnston: I think UCSC claimed that it got too big and couldn't keep up with the evaluations. 01:38:22 Audrey Blumeneau: @Brenda, I am not sure but I do remember feeling so sorry for all the students. I โ€˜thinkโ€™ professors felt it was too much work but I am not sure. 01:38:27 Sandy Neps: Janet... I experienced a similar thing in my chem class in the 1990's. the next term I didn't even try for the A... just did enough to get a B 01:38:41 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): Follow our presenters on Twitter at: @DrBriBrown @blueprint_text @iLearnNow 01:39:23 Melissa Utsler: (Thank you) 01:39:39 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: Sandy, what is teaches students is that it doesnโ€™t matter how hard they try, unless they know exactly what the teacher wants (not the content), they canโ€™t go for the grade they are trying to earn. 01:39:53 Sandy Neps: that's what I learned... 01:40:15 Brenda Wilborn: So is it a question of scalability? How can we deal with that? (referring to UCSC) 01:40:41 Bradford Johnston: Go Slugs! 01:40:47 Valentin Macias: me too! 01:40:52 Andrew Walzer: Go Slugs! 01:41:03 Andrew Walzer: We are taking over! 01:41:09 Davina Ramirez: UCSC alum here. A lot of the pressure to end narrative evals was that the sciences preferred letter grades. A big part of that is that both profs & students had zero grasp of how to DO alternate grading. Profs had no sense of how to grade meaningfully or give feedback with narratives - Iโ€™m sure they were never trained! And students in the sciences scoffed at narratives. They were mostly ppl who always got that 95% and up. (Source: I was a physics major) 01:41:24 Sandy Somo: Go banana slugs! (not one myself, but a sister of two slugs!) 01:41:31 Andrew Walzer: Slowly.. 01:41:32 Katharine Boraz: I'm a slug, too! Was so inspired by the no grades policy at UCSC. So sad they gave it up. 01:41:48 Andrew Walzer: Grades are for eggs! 01:41:55 Davina Ramirez: Fiat Lux! 01:42:26 Bradford Johnston: The narrative evals worked well for my field -- history. 01:42:32 Jamey Cooper: @Daveโ€ฆI did exactly the same as you. Jumped in with both feet fall semester and have been on a learning curve ever since! 01:42:54 Tanya Littrell: Yes, I had a similar experience in an undergrad writing class. The Grad Teaching Assistant didn't appreciate my technical writing and wanted creative writing from me. That resulted in the only C I had in my undergrad. As a pre-med student at the time, it was devastating. I didn't end up going to med school, but I have written a textbook. We can have long ranging impacts on students. :-) 01:44:21 Mary Anne Funk: To the other instructors here from Portland Community College: if you are planning on implementing the non-grading system in the next quarter or beyond that, I am as well and it would be wonderful to connect to talk about how to best implement into our classes. 01:44:47 Sandy Neps: Mary Anne- I'll be continuing to take steps in this direction. 01:44:47 Lauren Hull: Mary Anne, let's also connect with the CTLE Learning Groups! 01:45:00 Mary Anne Funk: Lauren, that's great. Yes 01:45:42 Sandy Somo: Thatโ€™s my experience too, Dave! 01:46:00 Sandy Neps: 1:1 meetings is the single best way I have spent an overwhelming amount of time in the moment that paid off 1000X later. Well worth the time and effort! 01:46:00 Tina Leonard: True likewise 01:46:14 Tara Montague: @Mary Anne, Iโ€™m from Portland Community College; would love to connect. 01:46:18 Julie Gamberg: @Sandy, 100% 01:46:26 Sandy Somo: I've been a student in social sciences for a long time, (new to teaching), and I have never come across a class where this ungrading system was implemented. I didn't even know it was allowed! I would've spent more time learning and less all-nighters cramming for exams that ask me to memorize dates and statistics. This has so much value! 01:46:38 Matthew Davis: Iโ€™ve kept some quizzes but hide the percentage from students so that they donโ€™t view just their quiz grade as their overall grade. 01:47:10 Lauren Hull: I'm collecting PCC names as they pop up, if y'all want to make a learning community at our college 01:47:13 Nancy Olson: Learning mastery gradebook is built on outcomes and rubrics 01:47:29 Sandy Neps: Lauren.. please put me on the PCC list 01:47:39 Aisha Conner-Gaten: Please have an upgrading Canvas webinar update! I need that 01:47:41 Tara Montague: Me too โ€” Thanks, Lauren! 01:47:58 Mariah Tilman: me too on PCC list 01:48:08 Claudia Kelley: @Lauren Hull - please include me: ckelley@pasadena.edu 01:48:30 Julie Gamberg: @Lauren and Sandy (and Mariah and Claudia), and then reach out to us at GCC, so we can have cross-institution collaboration! 01:48:39 Tanya Littrell: @Lauren Hall and others at PCC. A learning community would be great! I'm on sabbatical this year, but would love to engage with all of you. 01:48:40 Maria Pehlivanova: Count me in = PCC list 01:48:42 Davina Ramirez: JULIE! Davina here 01:49:01 Bradford Johnston: I'll join the PCC list, thanks. 01:49:07 Mamta Agarwal: @Lauren Hull: Mamta.agarwal@chaffey.edu 01:49:09 Julie Gamberg: Davina!!! โ™ฅ๏ธ 01:49:09 Mary Anne Funk: @Laruen, yes please. Thank you for doing this. I am interested in being added. 01:49:12 Melody Wilson: I would love to connect with the Portland Community College ungrading group! I'm in my second term of contract grading and really appreciate it. 01:49:22 Claudia Kelley: @Juliie - thanks; great idea! 01:49:47 Rachel Thwing: Lauren, please add me to the PCC list of names. I am interested in a profession learning comnmunity around this topic too. 01:49:57 Sandy Neps: HIIII Rachel!!!!! 01:49:57 Melody Wilson: Oh, that Melody Wilson (mawilson@pcc.edu) 01:50:03 Veronica Romero-Murillo: Thank you for including Student Voices โค๏ธ 01:50:07 Bruce Conkle: How do ungraders adjust for attendance? 01:50:17 Davina Ramirez: @Lauren and @Julie - yes to PCC/GCC collab. Briliant 01:50:18 Jeanne Costello: yay, Shilo! 01:50:22 Rachel Thwing: Hi Sandy ๐Ÿ™‚ 01:50:25 Carolina Bailey: Can non-PCC join the list? 01:50:26 Lorene Broersma: I am interested in the Portland CC too. 01:50:55 Heather Griffo: @Lauren - you can add me to the PCC list. BA is working on equity grading (ungrading adjacent). 01:51:14 Sybil Priebe: I use a flexible attendance policy. They can attend f2f, asynchronous, or virtualโ€ฆ 01:51:20 Kathryn Dowis: Is there any biology group that is taking this on that I can talk with? 01:51:35 Sandy Neps: Kathryn-- sandy.neps@pcc.edu 01:51:39 Denise Maduli-Williams: Thank you for acknowledging this Dave. 01:51:40 Laura Knight: I would love to learn how public speaking instructors are using UnGrading 01:52:09 Nadiyah Taylor: Thanks Dave for acknowledging privilege and different spaces people inhabit 01:52:41 Sybil Priebe: Iโ€™ve mentioned to my speech colleague that he should still give out his feedback but take off the grades and let students self assess 01:52:45 Sandy Somo: From an ESL perspective, these concepts are so important, as they allow students to focus on their voice and communication rather than on being perfect in their interlocution. 01:52:58 Sandy Neps: โค๏ธ 01:53:11 Allyson Sides: I would also like to know about how to incorporate upgrading in public speaking 01:53:12 Jamey Cooper: Iโ€™m a STEM Earth Science adjunct instructor and I have gone ungradedโ€ฆit works and my classes are better for it. Just an FYI for those of you on the STEM side. 01:53:14 Melody Wilson: I've been at it for two terms--writing teacher--grading is far easier, more natural. I comment thoroughly, but there's a switch off in my head--that one that decides. I love it. 01:53:29 Julie Gamberg: This is inspiring! 01:53:42 Denise Maduli-Williams: ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ 01:53:46 Laurie Brion: Bravo, Dave! 01:53:49 Maria Pehlivanova: Thank you! 01:53:53 Jeanne Costello: Fabulous! 01:53:54 Veronica Romero-Murillo: ๐Ÿ‘ 01:53:56 Sandy Neps: โค๏ธโค๏ธ 01:53:56 Sybil Priebe: Ditto Melody 01:54:00 Matthew Moore: Thank you for a very heartwarming presentation. 01:54:02 Sandy Somo: ๐Ÿ‘ 01:54:03 Dr D Preciado: Inspiring. 01:54:04 Nadiyah Taylor: ๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿฝ 01:54:04 Roxann Schroeder: thanks to all our presenters! I AM inspired! 01:54:05 Mary Budzilowicz: Thank you so much! 01:54:05 Laura Headley: ๐Ÿ‘ 01:54:05 Mary Anne Funk: ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ 01:54:06 Donna Eyestone: โค๏ธ 01:54:06 Rhonda Welch: ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ 01:54:07 Andrea Fuentes: ๐Ÿ’› 01:54:08 Denise Maduli-Williams: PHENOMENAL. 01:54:10 Senya Lubisich: Thank you! 01:54:13 Joyce Brady: Great presentations 01:54:13 Audrey Blumeneau: Fantastic! So exciting and inspiring. 01:54:13 Tina Leonard: thank you! 01:54:14 Christopher Jefferson: Thank you all, that was wonderful! SO inspiring! 01:54:14 Carolina Bailey: Thank you! 01:54:15 Dayna Quick: me, too Michelle! 01:54:15 Mary Budzilowicz: Committed to changing the system 01:54:16 Purwa Garg: Thank you! 01:54:17 Annika Nelson: thank you! 01:54:17 Allyson Sides: Thank you to all presenters! 01:54:17 Sybil Priebe: ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿฆ„ 01:54:19 Cynthia Hamlett: Woo hoo!! Thank you all. I already signed up for the @ONE course. โค So inspiring. 01:54:19 Tom Cody: Thank you to the presenters for your clarity and passion. 01:54:20 tracy stuntz: ๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰ 01:54:21 Shannon Kelsey: Lauren, please put me on the PCC list as well 01:54:22 Cristina Polesel Livoti: Thank you! 01:54:22 Bryan Best: THANK YOU ALL!!! FANTASTIC! 01:54:23 April Akins: ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป 01:54:23 Richard Kamei: Thank you 01:54:25 Robin Akawi: ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿฅฐ 01:54:25 Jessica Beck: Thank you for the wonderful presentations! 01:54:27 Randy Wade: Thank you SO much!! 01:54:44 Sandy Somo: Thank you all for this wonderful presentation!!! ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’• 01:54:45 Ann Oliver Graybill: Thanks โ€” very informative and inspiring! 01:54:45 Matthew Moore: Have to go. Keep up the fight. 01:54:45 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: LOVED this! Thank you! As an equitable grader, I appreciated the risk you all took today! 01:54:46 Mamta Agarwal: A real eye-opener 01:54:46 Valentin Macias: Thank you for sharing your experiences. 01:54:47 Mamta Agarwal: . 01:54:50 Rachel Thwing: ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™Œ 01:54:55 Jamey Cooper: Thank you all! Love being in this amazing community! 01:54:58 Katharine Boraz: Thank you all!!! โค๏ธ 01:54:59 Jeannette Mulhern: FYI: Canvas has an e-portfolio built in. 01:55:00 Sybil Priebe: Yes to Twitter! 01:55:03 Eva Figueroa: Wonderful presentation! Thank you, Bri, Dave, and Fabiola! ๐Ÿฅฐ 01:55:04 Michelle LaBrie: Thank you all! 01:55:05 Sandy Somo: ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿผ 01:55:09 Chris Nordquist: Wow! This was SUPER helpful for me, someone fairly new to these concepts. Thank you! 01:55:10 Andrea Fuentes: ^^^ Twitter 01:55:19 Jeanne Costello: Salt Lake Community College has a robust ePortfolio program. Check out their website! 01:55:21 Debra Crumpton: Thank you, All! This has been inspiring, informative, and empowering. 01:55:30 Jeanne Costello: We are piloting Portfolium at Fullerton College 01:55:31 Brianna Brown: As a student this was great insight and you all did great and interesting perspectives, congrats 01:55:34 Jamey Cooper: 3CSN has a great eportfolio workshop they teach! 01:55:44 John Cristobal: ๐Ÿ™ thank you, this discussion has been great 01:55:47 Sandy Somo: Thank you for asking us to take risks! 01:56:02 Cristina Polesel Livoti: My internet connection has been unstable. Will you send me a link for the recording? 01:56:03 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: This is one thing that I am doing: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1OPWHA6zk8Zlo5IDVq7nWOU2QPhI09-PrIOkbKGS4eZI/edit?usp=sharing 01:56:05 Andrea Fuentes: The tool is kinda lame but ... 01:56:12 Jeanne Costello: Documenting Learning with ePortfolios is a great book by Tracy Penny Light, Helen L. Chen, and John C. Ittleson 01:56:17 Jamey Cooper: I use Google sites 01:56:27 Andrea Fuentes: Google sites > Portfolium IMHO 01:56:28 Lorene Broersma: San Jose State School of Library Information Science also uses E-portfolios 01:56:35 Lauren Hull: For those of you that expressed interest in the PCC (Portland CC) I've gathered all the names I can. I've also written down the non-PCC names and/or emails provided, I will try my best to contact everyone. Perhaps the presenters might help us make a contact network for boarder discussions? Twitter has been recommended as a space. 01:56:35 Eva Figueroa: Yes, I've done that with giving free options. 01:56:37 Kate McCarroll: You could ask them to put something together in their google docs and ask them to share a folder 01:56:43 Denise Maduli-Williams: +1 for the 3CSN portfolio workshops. 01:56:54 Laura Knight: @sybil, thank you. 01:57:01 Jeanne Costello: the 3CSN workshops are great, btw! 01:57:08 Martha Kehl: @ Lauren - please add me to the list. 01:57:20 Jamey Cooper: YES 3CSN has been great! 01:57:41 Deborah Owens: Thank You -I am inspired to take the leap. 01:57:42 Martha Kehl: @ Lauren - Mkehl@ohlone.edu (pleae add me to your list) 01:57:55 Cynthia Hamlett: Thank you for sharing, @Janet! 01:58:05 Michelle Pacansky-Brock (she/her): Equitable Grading Strategies course from CVC/@ONE: https://onlinenetworkofeducators.org/course-cards/equitable-grading-strategies/ 01:58:15 Jeannette Mulhern: Lauren Hull - please add me to your PCC list 01:58:38 Cerise Myers: Thank you so much for this! I have to shift to another meeting, but am so grateful for the information and inspiration (as usual)! 01:58:39 Allyson Sides: @ Lauren please add me to the list also thornta@flc.losrios.edu 01:58:53 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: You are welcome, Cynthiaโ€”I want students to reflect and goal-set along the way 01:59:28 Carolina Bailey: Please add me to the list too cbailey@madisoncollege.edu 01:59:35 Sofia Cook: Lauren add me to the list to please sofiac@cos.edu 02:00:07 Audrey Blumeneau: @Lauren please add me as well! Audrey.Blumeneau@sjcc.edu Thank you! 02:00:09 Suzanne Daly: Please add me to the list-smdaly@madisoncollege.edu 02:00:16 Sandy Neps: Portland CC bio folks... if you explore this... I'll do my best to have your back! 02:00:16 Jeannette Mulhern: Lauren Hull: J. Mulhern mulherj@crc.losrios.edu 02:00:16 Marini Smith: Please add me to the list. Thank you! smithmh@wlac.edu 02:00:23 Meg Phelps: Hey anybodyโ€” I was going to download the chat, and I accidentally left the meeting so I lost itโ€” can anybody capture it for me? 02:00:37 John Cristobal: Please do share Fabiola, I would love to hear your frameworks you lean on 02:00:44 Mark Carpenter: For the list: mark.carpenter@rccd.edu 02:00:45 Julie Gamberg: Fabiola has been a consistently brave voice on campus - it is so clear how helpful that is to faculty! 02:00:55 Armeda Reitzel: Armeda.Reitzel@humboldt.edu 02:00:56 Rhonda Welch: Ooh, yes Fabi--plz share 02:00:57 Cristina Polesel Livoti: Please add me to the list crpolese@cabrillo.edu. Thank you. 02:01:04 Hsing Ho: Please add me to the list. Thank you! hsing.ho@chaffey.edu. 02:01:09 Laura Knight: Poor @Lauren Hull. Maybe Lauren and the conference organizers here could collaborate to share info? Or sharable google sheet and folks could fill in their names? 02:01:15 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: Please add me: jmlambert@cerritos.edu 02:01:20 Jeanne Costello: That would be awesome, Dave! 02:01:22 Meg Phelps: Add me to the list please mphelps@vcccd.edu 02:01:23 Janet Mitchell-Lambert: Thank you! 02:01:31 Dayna Quick: I canโ€™t figure out how to save the chat, Meg. 02:01:32 Cynthia Hamlett: Oh boy, add me to the list, too! chamlett@craftonhills.edu 02:01:34 Tara Montague: THANK YOU!!!!! 02:01:34 Hsing Ho: Thank you everyone! 02:01:34 Rhonda Welch: Thank you!!! 02:01:36 Tanessa Sanchez: ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿผ๐ŸŽ‰ #Ungrading โœ”๏ธ 02:01:37 Armeda Reitzel: Many thanks. Good โ€œfoodโ€ for thought!!! 02:01:39 Robin Akawi: Please add me akawir@arc.losrios.edu 02:01:40 Veronica Romero-Murillo: Thank you!!! 02:01:41 Nasreen Rahim: Please add me to the list: Nasreen.rahim@evc.edu 02:01:41 Mary Anne Funk: thank you 02:01:43 Michelle LaBrie: thank you! 02:01:44 Audrey Blumeneau: Yes, full and empowered! Thank you! 02:01:52 Bradford Johnston: Please add me to the list bdjohnston@pasadena.edu 02:01:58 Andy Robles: Thanks from Andy Robles, Math department, Norco College. 02:01:58 Mary Anne Funk: Yes: Stories 02:02:03 Alice Dieli: Please add me, too dielia@arc.losrios.edu 02:02:05 Sandy Somo: did you record? I came in late?? 02:02:05 Davina Ramirez: โ€œThe plural of anecdote is dataโ€ 02:02:06 Melissa Utsler: melissa.utsler@chaffey.edu - very passionate about ungraded - please add me if additional opportunities to collaborate :) ! 02:02:07 Sandy Somo: Let me know 02:02:08 Laura Knight: <3 02:02:08 Bryan Best: Thank you so much for an inspiring time together! 02:02:09 Dayna Quick: dquick@marin.edu 02:02:10 Maureen Lowell: thank you 02:02:11 Jessica Freitag: Thank you!!! 02:02:11 Mariah Tilman: thank you for the inspiration and perhaps more important specific information 02:02:14 Dr D Preciado: Thank you! 02:02:14 Lorene Broersma: So interesting to experience evolution of education. Thank you 02:02:14 Sandy Somo: Thank you again! Bye all! 02:02:15 Aisha Conner-Gaten: aconnergaten@glendale.edu 02:02:15 Melissa Utsler: Thank you :) 02:02:16 Aisha Conner-Gaten: Thanks! 02:02:18 Eva Figueroa: Thank you!